I agree that it is by grace ,through faith that we are saved (no doubts here) Amen, but God does not change, He is the same yesterday, today and forever. Right, Roshan, it say’s we have no condemnation if we are “in Christ Jesus”. “The Africans are prepared to walk for three days to attend church and you can’t be bothered to get out of bed!!”. Christians that should know the value of the elements involved with this ordinance, as they are taking it, yet something is wrong . Of course not. What’s wrong with this picture?Spiritual masochists we all are! “God is your Father in heaven who loves you and holds nothing against you! “Job is an ignoramus. Gilly. The Jews broke themselves off through unbelief (Rom 11:20). 2.) It also says in Malachi that God will rebuke the devourer for us if we tithe. How did the Prophet Jesus know that God exists 100٪؟؟? All I did was just quote a scripture. This Easter many non-believers will go to church. When Abraham asked God how he would know that he had inherited the land,God told him to bring him a goat,a lamb,a dove,and a pigeon and the land/inheritance would come to him little by little. The author reveals that Egypt had a monotheistic religion, not one with a pantheon of gods, gives the evidence to explain the Exodus, traces the Old and New Testaments back to Egypt, explains why most of the characters in the … I am happy to suffer together as the least among these freedom fighters. It still hinders my prayers sometimes. However, Yeshua’s entire earthly ministry was to His own People, the House of Israel. God love’s us even to this extreme. If all this is not speaking effort, I really do not know what it is speaking of, do you? It is an abusive and irresponsible parent who always gives and never takes anything away from their children. maybe grace is too good to be true. I was delivered from the tithe lie many years ago after hearing what the previous poster, David said. whenever we yield to His Spirit in us He will give the shirt off our back. If a Woman Can’t be a Husband, She Can’t be a Pastor, Right. For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sake He became poor, so that you through His poverty might become rich. What I am against,is the prevalent teaching in churches that we all SHOULD be giving a tenth to the church.A tenth for someone who makes 2000 a week,is probably no big deal,as they still have quite a bit left for housing,car,groceries,savings….but for someone much poorer who maybe only makes 400 a week,a tenth is a huge amount,they probably cant afford a car or gas to put in it and forget about savings!It makes God a respector of persons which He isn’t. Interestingly enough, it's those that … Whatever you do, don’t burn out, burn on. so if i pray to jesus and ask him to forgive my sins on my deathbed does that mean i can sin all the way until deathbed and go to heaven? The deep irony is that this nascent false teaching that you’re gonna get sick or die if you don’t examine yourselves for sin is the VERY THING that may well cause you to remain sick or die! Many may say that this is a “witch hunt”, not so, I and may family were in the dark for more years than I care to count because of wrong teaching. Also, you can find songs that perfectly nail the concepts and talk about them and give them more ‘air time’. Not only that but if I expect to hijack grace as a means of securing some good thing for my own self interest instead of for the glory of God alone I have missed entire divine objective and purpose of divine grace which is “to the praise of his glory” (Eph 1) sola DEO Gloria! Everlasting life Who can know the mind of Christ? How do you think Paul was able to maintain love for others when he faced so many hardships? 1 Timothy 6:11-12. The Biggest Lie in the History of Christianity, Mr. Kelly, is that you can get rich off of the Church. First, it is the Word of the Lord, so it’s NOT, in itself, a religious lie. It is about the “…faithful brethren in Christ “ and “…the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.” Colossians 1:2 and 2:5. .- However neither do I adhere to your exegesis of this passage that mistakenly assumes “examine yourselves before partaking” means “examine your own behaviour for some moral failure or for sins”. EddieJ. Grace is the oxygen of the atmosphere of our faith. Religions are the best scams ever invented. Thanks Bros. Good thoughts those bro! 2 years ago. Tithing proclaims God is alive and taking all our gift like the high priest. “God did not reject his people…” (Rom. But not so back at the time of David and the kings of Israel. Iare you are better husband to your wife that Jesus is to His church? It is always Grace that is disputed and always has been from the beginning. Also, I love the idea that we can do anything we want, never works for me. But thank God I have been set free by His Grace and Truth. And as he told Timothy, so tells us, we are to, “Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life,” 1 Timothy 6:12. A few years ago I couldn’t stand it any longer and challenged him and I was put out of the church. At the Cross He was the perfect sacrifice who took all of our sins, past, present and future on His sinless person so God could pour out all of His fury and wrath on Jesus, the sacrifice, to redeem us from the curse of the law and the penalty of sin. The Apostle Paul seems to not understand this, as he instructed the brethren with this very scripture, well into the new covenant. Join the grace revolution. You insult the Spirit of grace and trample under foot the blood of the covenant that makes believers holy by your false gospel. Jonathan, I’ve listened to Prince and Wommack for a few years and they are spot on; God used them to change my life. There is no going back, for those who have been exposed to the true Gospel to the lies that are being told in the organization called the “church”. 0 0. But lets face, it, religion is by far the biggest lie and danger to the world. Now I get it. Another lie is the popular claim that Jesus came to earth and began a new religion, separate from Judaism. God Bless you Brother as you continue in His Word. But the gospel truth is that all the blessings of God are ours in Christ (Eph 1:3). When believers start to understand about Grace they will be delivered from the bondage of the Law and Rest as we have been commanded to do. Why do Good People fall for Bad Teaching? You need to keep your anger hidden. When Job said, “The Lord gives and the Lord takes away.” The Holy Spirit of the Father is very careful to agree with Job’s statememt in the next verse by saying, “In all this (this statement) Job never sinned against God.” They are familiar with Jesus, but not intimate. It’s almost unbelievable. It is man’s flesh that inserts the Law in New Covenant teaching. Hahahahahahhahhahahhha love this comment.you go Bob. There were48 levitical cities,and this was where most of the tithe went.The levites in turn gave a tithe of the tithe.In Malachi,it was not the common people whom God was rebuking,but the priests.The people were doing their part,but the priests not.They were the ones robbing God and offering Him lame animals.The common Israelite was not even allowed into the sanctuary or altar or they would die.Tithing was like our taxation,not our giving.It,like the rest of the law never worked,and of course…we are not under the Mosaic law but under Grace,ALL believers are priests with an inheritance.The way it is commonly taught today,it IS a lie.It troubles me because so many preachers who are so scripturally sound,practicing good hermeneutics and exegesis in all other areas of the Word,remain ignorant concerning tithing.It’s a chosen ignorance. What else can it mean? I have however witnessed cases of people getting weak and sick and even passing away who were rejecting Gods free offer of reconciliation, forgiveness, acceptance and peace with God through Jesus death alone in favor of attempting to secure and maintain Gods favor and blessing by their behaviour, by their performance or by their own moral standing (by walking in the flesh): Supporting one’s church is not a problem if the Lord has directed you to do that. However, Yeshua’s entire earthly ministry was to His own People, the House of Israel. There is nothing, absolutely nothing we can do to make ourselves worthy outside of the Cross of Christ. We do not secure blessings and favor BY pleasing God -unless it is by believing which without faith it is impossible to please God (Heb 11:) Until you please God by faith alone in Jesus as the ONLY means to securing every blessing and favor NOTHING you do pleased God. I believe that is the reason the church (religious institutions) are impotent and carnal. But here are some lies you may have got told along the way. (Heb. Tom -no one is saying sin is not a problem in the believers life. So Many Lies About Christianity 6. Vs. 15 says.. What then? Remember the widows mite! No Job wasn’t theologically wrong when he made this statement. I agree with your thought that many church leaders teach it,”to stay in buisiness”..which is actually a lack of faith…that God would move in the hearts of His people to meet needs and bear each others burdens,providing all that was necessary. He doesn’t love you because you did good or kept the rules. My heart breaks for all those who are discouraged from taking the Holy Communion. Sins are forgiven in every believer but the ROOT of sins which is wrong believing about Jesus is always disciplined by God as a responsible and loving Father (see also Hebrews 12). 2 years ago. If you don’t know what makes the new covenant new, you will preach mixture. Close. Of the hundreds of religions followed around the world, it just so happens that the Christians were right after all. The genius of the … Hi Tom- you are confusing divine blessings and favor which comes to us by the merits and righteousness of Jesus Christ alone with pleasing God. Haha! Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. The Malachi curse is not for New Covenant believers. Tom, Joseph Prince made a very profound statement. Examining ourselves is part of that “walking in the Spirit”, so we wont fulfill the flesh. I believe the Holy Spirit gives us nothing but good gifts, but what we see is filtered by what we are looking through. The Hyper-Grace Gospel He did NOT tithe money – and did not even tithe his OWN possessions. Then pray in your own name! Which is it ? 1 Corinthians 11:31,32. most honest preacher I knew prepared the sermon for the whole week and they meditated on it asking Lord for wisdom. Be careful my friend or will continue to argue and defend your idol of self effort religion until it’s too late: Where sin increases, grace hyper-abounds. Two different kings,on two different occasions took/removed Sarah/Grace from Abraham/Faith. If Christianity is a lie, why do Jews have so many problems and are scattered all over creation. Make Him feel good. He talks utter nonsense” (Job 34:35, MSG). Baha'i, Hinduism, Taoism. Christendom would have us believe that David was forgiven his adultery due to Gods graciousness toward David and thus overlooked his sin. Christianity. I should have also mentioned this is also the SAME simple test to evaluate anything WE think, say or do as well: Is this thing I am thinking, saying or doing Jesus? 53:4, 5, 6; I Peter 2:24; Hebrews 10:10-14) In perpetuity. Our fruit to holiness is the Righteousness we have in Christ Jesus. Will the real Jesus please step forward and identify Himself please? Just as Jesus is in Heaven is as we are. 4:6. According to your preaching, there is nothing wrong with that as Gods grace will cover it. But I believe it. But I cringe when I hear people say it, because what they mean by it is that God is stealing, killing, and destroying. That’s why I am opposed to the word Tithing. No, 1 Corinthians 11:28-30 is very clear Maxx, I used to be the preacher you described. You don’t stand on your promises to God, but on his awesome promises to you. 0 0. like apostle Paul, i took a few blow/light beating (yes i’ve been reading your post… a lot). Daryl, I love your boldness in expressing the Truth. Oct 25, 2017 3,517. But Jesus has redeemed us from the curse of the law that we might live healthy and abundant lives. It opened up the whole can of worms on tithing. It is not mentioned in the Epistles. We are not blessed because we give but because he gives. Acts 8:37,38 and Acts 10:47,48. Barry, Just as the pharisees who followed Jesus while He walked on the earth, there are those who “follow” Jesus but never know Him. For every believer that feels blessed because they “tithed”,there are probably 10 who feel as though they are less spiritual,guilty,or lack faith because they didn’t. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Ps “create in me a renewed mind!” Jesus didn’t say, “you and I are the way, the truth and the life.” He said, “I am the way, the truth and the life.” There is only ONE Christian life – Jesus! They are without hope. Lv 7. Religion tells us that we can cheat death and live forever in some sort of heavenly time warp, or endless sunday afternoon. First, thank you for presenting your views with civility. Because Satan doesn’t want us to posses our inheritance. so they end up thinking that Grace is like grease that allows you to follow the law. 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